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    Default NLA's Big Legislative Projects

    Sure to mean much to all................ or, at least a few

    Sorci's column March/April LimoScene

    Of course the Gas Guzzler Tax is still a main focus for the NLA. How long has it been such now? 10 .... 15 years?????

    RIDE ACT Redux whcih will eliminate high airport fees ..... for those who pay them is a focus too.

    As predicted , the NLA will concentrate on ridding all of us from the evil AVIS/WEDRIVEU bastards.

    And what must be a personal favorite for Sorci whose company (Aventura) he works for has been hammered with OT lawsuits, Sorci pledges that the NLA will figure out a way to rid Operators of that pesky requirement to adequately pay drivers for services rendered.

    Well, I'll sleep fine at night knowing that Sorci, Boroday & the rest of the NLA is hard at work protecting the Industry.
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    Well Gunny it is important to work on legislation that has already passed. When you do that you have success.

    Like I said a couple of days ago it was getting embarassing to go to the Hill and talk about something that is already done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limo Wire View Post
    Well Gunny it is important to work on legislation that has already passed. When you do that you have success.

    Like I said a couple of days ago it was getting embarassing to go to the Hill and talk about something that is already done.
    Yep, GG & RIDE Act Part II. Would think the NLA brainiacs would have read and supported the proposed bills with the correct language before wasting its membership dollars in seeking sponsorship & passage. Instead another 6-12 years & tens of thousands of membership dollars redoing what they should of got right the 1st time around. And who benefits?

    Can we say "Amateurs"?

    What gets me the most is the IC contracting problems the NLA clowns are having. Or is it more a case of, "lets see how we can run an IC operation yet keep control of the IC's without the IC's actually falling under the employee label".

    Just give the IC's a car at a charge of $XXX per week & let them run with it. Who cares what they do so long as the Operator gets his/her weekly payment. Works for the taxicabs.
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    The NLA has just released its' "Government Affairs Position Paper" http://www.limo.org/Upload/news/NLA%...inal031609.pdf

    1. The original RIDE Act as written is exclusively an Interstate Measure. Even the House Briefings on the RIDE Act Bill placed this law as an Interstate Issue. The NLA continually missrepresents what this law is about & as I understand it, the final drafting was a compromise between the NLA & Taxihead TLPA.

    2. AVIS/WEDRIVEU has limited impact & as previously stated, those enjoying non-compete monopoly markets such as in S. Florida are crying the loudest. Not out of fear about AVIS but, that operators now regulated out of the sedan market will have a loophole to compete with those now enjoying a Socialistic environment.

    3. Repeal of the gas guzzler tax. WTF! The Industry averages just over 7 passengers per trip taking more than 6 cars off the road on the average trip!. I would love to see where they pull those numbers from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunny View Post
    The NLA has just released its' "Government Affairs Position Paper" http://www.limo.org/Upload/news/NLA%...inal031609.pdf

    1. The original RIDE Act as written is exclusively an Interstate Measure. Even the House Briefings on the RIDE Act Bill placed this law as an Interstate Issue. The NLA continually missrepresents what this law is about & as I understand it, the final drafting was a compromise between the NLA & Taxihead TLPA.

    2. AVIS/WEDRIVEU has limited impact & as previously stated, those enjoying non-compete monopoly markets such as in S. Florida are crying the loudest. Not out of fear about AVIS but, that operators now regulated out of the sedan market will have a loophole to compete with those now enjoying a Socialistic environment.

    3. Repeal of the gas guzzler tax. WTF! The Industry averages just over 7 passengers per trip taking more than 6 cars off the road on the average trip!. I would love to see where they pull those numbers from.
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    The Gas Guzzler has been on the agenda since 1986. The original Board defeated it. A few years later it returned.


    Quote Originally Posted by gunny View Post
    Sure to mean much to all................ or, at least a few

    Sorci's column March/April LimoScene

    Of course the Gas Guzzler Tax is still a main focus for the NLA. How long has it been such now? 10 .... 15 years?????

    RIDE ACT Redux whcih will eliminate high airport fees ..... for those who pay them is a focus too.

    As predicted , the NLA will concentrate on ridding all of us from the evil AVIS/WEDRIVEU bastards.

    And what must be a personal favorite for Sorci whose company (Aventura) he works for has been hammered with OT lawsuits, Sorci pledges that the NLA will figure out a way to rid Operators of that pesky requirement to adequately pay drivers for services rendered.

    Well, I'll sleep fine at night knowing that Sorci, Boroday & the rest of the NLA is hard at work protecting the Industry.
    Dean Schuler

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    And what must be a personal favorite for Sorci whose company (Aventura) he works for has been hammered with OT lawsuits, Sorci pledges that the NLA will figure out a way to rid Operators of that pesky requirement to adequately pay drivers for services rendered.



    First you would have to find companies that pay OT in the first place. I think that would be a tougher issue for Sorci.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limo Wire View Post
    And what must be a personal favorite for Sorci whose company (Aventura) he works for has been hammered with OT lawsuits, Sorci pledges that the NLA will figure out a way to rid Operators of that pesky requirement to adequately pay drivers for services rendered.



    First you would have to find companies that pay OT in the first place. I think that would be a tougher issue for Sorci.
    Solombrino may be jumping on the bandwagon with Sorci & Boroday!

    Overtime!!! But, But our DRIVERS serve in the same capacity as taxicab drivers
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    You would think that the NLA would seek out officers that have clean hands. That do not have issues with taxes employment laws. People that have built their companies by doing the right thing. They put them out there as examples of what you can accomplish, and what they have accomplished is skirting laws and bending rules. And becoming successful of the backs of their workers. That is why unions scare Scott so much, or one could draw that conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limo Wire View Post
    You would think that the NLA would seek out officers that have clean hands. That do not have issues with taxes employment laws. People that have built their companies by doing the right thing. They put them out there as examples of what you can accomplish, and what they have accomplished is skirting laws and bending rules. And becoming successful of the backs of their workers. That is why unions scare Scott so much, or one could draw that conclusion.
    Scott just got served with another OT lawsuit. This time in NY.

    Unions scare the fark out of the big operators. They're either going to have to pony up or figure how to run strictly IC's by the book.
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    They should scare them for years they have been on a crime spree with how they pay chauffeurs. And the biggest problem is you can't get chauffeurs to agree and pull together. The chauffeur especially when you grow becomes the face of your company. And they should be compensated accordingly. I enjoyed my time as a chauffeur and would probably still be doing it today if I could have made a living doing it without working 80 hours a week. Now you have companies big enough for unions to notice. Years ago nobody paid attention to limo companies they were seen as mom and pop. Add in union membership is at an all time low, they need new members. The Dav El Boston Coach and Careys of the world should be worried. Could kill their bottom line. And the chauffeurs have been so abused that if unions get a hold of them and convince them how much they have been screwed they are ripe for the picking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limo Wire View Post
    They should scare them for years they have been on a crime spree with how they pay chauffeurs. And the biggest problem is you can't get chauffeurs to agree and pull together. The chauffeur especially when you grow becomes the face of your company. And they should be compensated accordingly. I enjoyed my time as a chauffeur and would probably still be doing it today if I could have made a living doing it without working 80 hours a week. Now you have companies big enough for unions to notice. Years ago nobody paid attention to limo companies they were seen as mom and pop. Add in union membership is at an all time low, they need new members. The Dav El Boston Coach and Careys of the world should be worried. Could kill their bottom line. And the chauffeurs have been so abused that if unions get a hold of them and convince them how much they have been screwed they are ripe for the picking.
    I feel poetic justice will soon be served.
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    Default On The Subject Of Legislative

    Anyone ever checked out where NLA PAC Funds go?

    National Limousine Assn Contributions to Federal Candidates

    House
    Total to Democrats: $6,500
    Total to Republicans: $250

    Andrews, Robert E (D-NJ) $1,500
    Bartlett, Roscoe G (R-MD) $250
    Brown, Corrine (D-FL) $1,500
    Hall, John (D-NY) $500
    Pascrell, Bill Jr (D-NJ) $3,000

    Senate
    Total to Democrats: $3,300
    Total to Republicans: $0

    Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) $2,300
    Lautenberg, Frank R (D-NJ) $1,000

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacg...380&cycle=2008
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunny View Post
    Scott just got served with another OT lawsuit. This time in NY.

    Unions scare the fark out of all the big operators. They're either going to have to pony up or figure how to run strictly IC's by the book.
    Unions should scare the fark out of any hard working livery operator. The new legislation trying to be pushed through capital hill for secret ballots for employees of companies to go union without the owners not having a say is crazy. The amount of money that it would require to operate a company with just five cars would mean that you would have to employ almost 15 "Full Time" union chauffeurs. That would mean you would have to pay their full wage per hour worked. Do the numbers, it is scary!

    Now, allot of companies would not mind that, but this is where the zinger comes in, if we all have to have union employees, where is the client going to be. Obviously, they will either pay $200.00 for a 10 min airport shuttle for a company that has union chauffeurs, or will pay the usual rate for a booking "base station" that has a full roster of I/O's.

    Hate to say it, but the industry will be no better then a bunch of hacks with union cards that will bitch about anything that can get them more money. I can see it now, a major convention comes to town that can make allot of operators good money, but all of the sudden, the unionized chauffeurs decide to strike because they want more money from the companies that are booking the business. Of course this would happen after the client contracts were signed causing a whole bunch of headaches for the base operators.

    Nothing but a mess, if unions are allowed to come into a self regulating industry like livery. Unions were good back in the mid 30's when the industrial boom hit, but not now. Companies are too organized and are heavily invested in HR practices to allow unfair labor issues. Back in the days when companies ran unfair labor conditioons, it was right for unions to walk in, and demand fair standard reforandoms for employees rights.
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    Default In Comparison, The TLPA PAC Contributions

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    Anyone ever checked out where NLA PAC Funds go?

    National Limousine Assn Contributions to Federal Candidates

    House
    Total to Democrats: $6,500
    Total to Republicans: $250

    Andrews, Robert E (D-NJ) $1,500
    Bartlett, Roscoe G (R-MD) $250
    Brown, Corrine (D-FL) $1,500
    Hall, John (D-NY) $500
    Pascrell, Bill Jr (D-NJ) $3,000

    Senate
    Total to Democrats: $3,300
    Total to Republicans: $0

    Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) $2,300
    Lautenberg, Frank R (D-NJ) $1,000

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacg...380&cycle=2008
    House
    Total to Democrats: $9,310
    Total to Republicans: $20,291

    Andrews, Robert E (D-NJ) $1,500
    Brown, Corrine (D-FL) $1,500
    Brown, Henry (R-SC) $1,000
    Costello, Jerry F (D-IL) $3,310
    Duncan, John J Jr (R-TN) $6,310
    Mica, John L (R-FL) $6,981
    Oberstar, James L (D-MN) $3,000
    Petri, Tom (R-WI) $3,000
    Shuster, Bill (R-PA) $3,000

    Senate
    Total to Democrats: $0
    Total to Republicans: $2,000

    Sununu, John E (R-NH) $2,000
    http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacg...480&cycle=2008
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