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    Keep speaking out and never accept the short end of the stick !!
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    New LCT in. Ran a story about the infamous Drunk Chauffeur but that is old news.

    Carla Boroday president of the Florida Limousine Association & Director on the NLA Board quoted as saying, "The FLA and other local associations have been trying to get a statewide process put into place for some time to avoid duplication and to standardize the process."

    News to me & others. First the Executive Director of the HCPTC backs State Regulation now the President of the FLA! Whats going on? I will investigate these comments and action taken by the FLA to actually pursue a state regulation process. Walk the Walk or Talk the Talk.
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    State-wide regulation is the only way.
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    Plainly put: City/County regulation doesn't work for our trade. We need Universal For Hire Plates, State/Federal regulation, and the strictest Chauffeur Standards imaginable. As time goes by I predict that the Feds will run the SHOW.
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    Originally posted by Dean Schuler:
    Plainly put: City/County regulation doesn't work for our trade. We need Universal For Hire Plates, State/Federal regulation, and the strictest Chauffeur Standards imaginable. As time goes by I predict that the Feds will run the SHOW.
    Back in October Dave Shaw, President of the 35 (?) strong member WFLA stood in front of the Hillsborough Public Transportation Commission to present the completed surveys of its membership regarding proposed rules changes. Now, this individual almost always starts off with the introduction of who he is & that he represents the industry (approx 150) located on Floridas west coast. In his hands he had 10 I repeat 10 completed surveys. One of course was his, another the VP of the association & one from the President of the FGTA who is based in the Florida Panhandle. 10 completed surveys regarding proposed rules changes that would affect the governing of the transportation industry in Tampa. Yet again, maybe more were completed but the responses didn't serve the purpose of the few & they were tossed?

    Regulation must be snatched from the grasp of the local corrupt regulators & the influence of the small minority of Kiss A-- operators with only self serving interest. There is a reason why Congress deregulated the transportation industry & Tampa is a prime example.
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    Gunny, Tell us about the overtime wage law lawsuit currently going on in Florida.
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    Originally posted by Dean Schuler:
    Gunny, Tell us about the overtime wage law lawsuit currently going on in Florida.
    Dean,
    This has slipped through the cracks with me. I haven't heard anything.
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    Gunny's Time to Vent;

    Over past couple of weeks I've been working on a brief to present to members of the Florida Legislature on 9 August. This meeting is the result of hours upon hours of hard work of a few individuals. This meeting has the potential to change the way business is done not just in Tampa but the whole State whereas multiple permiting will disappear for intrastate transportation & the first steps for State Regulation may begin.
    Over the past month or so I have noticed new members appearing on this site that will reap the benefits. One in particular relayed to a colleague of mine that he likes to maintain a "low" profile. He earns his money by sliding in & out of Tampa under the scope. Those holding Tampa permits would call him an "illegal operator".
    The reason why local goverments run roughshod over operators is that there are a hell of a lot more wimps in this business then there are those willing to fight & take chances.
    Now I'm faced with a big dilemma next month. Do I hit the delete button & not show up & let the cowards get what they deserve or do I show up & fight for individuals I have absolutely no respect for?
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    Originally posted by gunny:
    Gunny's Time to Vent;

    Over past couple of weeks I've been working on a brief to present to members of the Florida Legislature on 9 August. This meeting is the result of hours upon hours of hard work of a few individuals. This meeting has the potential to change the way business is done not just in Tampa but the whole State whereas multiple permiting will disappear for intrastate transportation & the first steps for State Regulation may begin.
    Over the past month or so I have noticed new members appearing on this site that will reap the benefits. One in particular relayed to a colleague of mine that he likes to maintain a "low" profile. He earns his money by sliding in & out of Tampa under the scope. Those holding Tampa permits would call him an "illegal operator".
    The reason why local goverments run roughshod over operators is that there are a hell of a lot more wimps in this business then there are those willing to fight & take chances.
    Now I'm faced with a big dilemma next month. Do I hit the delete button & not show up & let the cowards get what they deserve or do I show up & fight for individuals I have absolutely no respect for?
    If you hit the delete button, you are just like the rest of the cowards. Do the right thing and press on, but leave the ego at home... 'cause people are not going to be lining up to thank you for your efforts on their behalf.
    Get some allies in the other transportation sectors and when you present together in agreement, the process is much easier IMO.
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    Originally posted by gunny:
    Gunny's Time to Vent;

    Over past couple of weeks I've been working on a brief to present to members of the Florida Legislature on 9 August. This meeting is the result of hours upon hours of hard work of a few individuals. This meeting has the potential to change the way business is done not just in Tampa but the whole State whereas multiple permiting will disappear for intrastate transportation & the first steps for State Regulation may begin.
    Over the past month or so I have noticed new members appearing on this site that will reap the benefits. One in particular relayed to a colleague of mine that he likes to maintain a "low" profile. He earns his money by sliding in & out of Tampa under the scope. Those holding Tampa permits would call him an "illegal operator".
    The reason why local goverments run roughshod over operators is that there are a hell of a lot more wimps in this business then there are those willing to fight & take chances.
    Now I'm faced with a big dilemma next month. Do I hit the delete button & not show up & let the cowards get what they deserve or do I show up & fight for individuals I have absolutely no respect for?
    Gunny I was told years ago that one of the Florida Associations could have had a state-wide permitting system in place but the good-old boy network of established operators had it killed. I think the name of the guy that was heading up the push to get state-wide permitting was Gonzalez.

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    Originally posted by Wade Randolph:

    Gunny I was told years ago that one of the Florida Associations could have had a state-wide permitting system in place but the good-old boy network of established operators had it killed. I think the name of the guy that was heading up the push to get state-wide permitting was Gonzalez.
    Rick Gonzalez of the Florida Livery Association in Orlando has been pushing for a new law known as the "Florida Livery Act". He attempted to garner support from the industry and was beat up pretty bad.
    My approach is much different. I'm not pushing for new laws as there are several laws on the books that protect the intrastate motor carrier. I could care less how a municipality regulates for-hire vehicles within their jurisdiction so long as there is minimal interference with motor carriers entering that jurisdiciton to load chartered passengers destined for another locale. So instead of playing politics, I embarked on learning Federal & State Statutes & take the issues before a Judge. This is what is called an "attention getter". It is putting the regulators on notice that there are a hell of a lot more laws regarding transportation than then the local ones they draw up in the back rooms.
    The "attention getter" has perked up the interest of politicians who were clueless as to the burdens placed not only on the motor carriers but also the consumers who rely on that carrier for intrastate transportation.
    Now that it is recognized that there is a problem, one offers up solutions to fix the problem. Hence, taking various laws on the books & combining them into one clear concise law that will regulate the industry.
    The August meeting is chaired by the Chairperson of the Florida Transportation Committee. So even though the issues are more or less directed at the problems in Tampa, the results of the information and laws passed to these members can have the potential to roll into the State as a whole.
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    State permits are the way to go. To further distance yourself from Ancient Idiot City Malfeasance Specialists, I recommend adding the coveted DOT PERMIT. The DOT ruled in my favor over a minibus issue and the City of New Orleans a few years back. If you want to give them the horn, have the permits that you need to do the trick. Work within the system, but if push comes to shove-deliver the horn and put them out of their tepid misery. Please note that this is a comment meant for operators in all 50 STATES. The higher up the ladder you go, the better it gets. Add those permits now !
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    Dave Shaw of the West Florida Livery Association actually surprised me at the Ad Hoc Committee Meeting. He showed up in a suit number one and he also stated that the best option would be state regulation. Now we have Boraday in south Florida in print calling for support of state regulation & the WFLA calling for state regulation. Are the few getting through? Maybe it is the handwriting on the wall that the Federal Suits will blow away the regulation of intrastate motor carriers and it's time to start thinking big?
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    LIMOUSINE LUNATICS


    Everyone knows that Florida has more than its fair share of regulatory parasites and according to the latest issue of LCT, they have spread to Gainesville, Florida. The Sunshine State also has a large group of idiotic limousine operators and this degree of lunacy has claimed yet another victim. This individual, it seems, has a Fatal Attraction for regulation. He is a self-serving individual who, for the record, has the largest limousine service in Gainesville. He feels it is perfectly okay to petition the local regulatory parasites to institute high fees on his fellow local operators, all in the good name of public safety and image. What this self-absorbed individual is not telling you is that he is afraid of any competition and feels threatened by it. Instead of talking with his fellow operators one-on-one, he will use the local regulatory parasites to help him put them out of business.

    The story only gets better. Here is the cherry on the cake! It is only after he screws over his fellow limousine operators that he wants them to join his new limousine association. This, my friends, is called LUNACY, something this stupid industry thrives on. Hey, stop the presses, he is so proud of his stupidity that he could not help but to nominate himself for Operator of the Year at this year's LCT Show. I think LCT/NLA should give him a special award this year. Let's call it The Golden Dildo Award for sticking it to his fellow limousine operators in Gainesville, as well as the rest of the state.

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    Originally posted by LimoKnight:
    LIMOUSINE LUNATICS
    I think LCT/NLA should give a special award this year. Let's call it The Golden Dildo Award for sticking it to his fellow limousine operators in Gainesville, as well as the rest of the state.
    Yeah Baby! I kid everyone not. There is a road in Orlando named "Golden Rod". I do make mention of it to the old ladies as we pass it by on the way to Canaveral. Yes, the glimmer in the old gals eyes is of a past long ago.

    Personally a "Wooden Splintered" award would be more appropriate & no lube to boot!
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