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    the 7.3 is a great medium duty engine, we have on is our tool truck, with just under 350K, has had some of what I consider normal maintenance issues and a tranny, this truck wieghs tpically 11K pounds and we often tow 10K with it,
    I also have a e350 bus with same engine 123K on it it is a 25' originally a 25 person shuttle, now set up for 14 runs great, many big cost differences with the bigger bus, and not as easy in to drive in tight areas

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    Quote Originally Posted by LIMOJESS View Post
    DO a carfax. Check the condition. It is a krystal so it is well built.

    The only thing i hate about Krystal is the Air-operated door.
    Yea it is made by krystal, looks really good.
    What is wrong with an air operated door ?

    What preventative maintenance should I do if I do end up with the bus ?
    Im guessing if the tranny fails on the bus it could be very expensive...

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    The best doors are the hand operated doors like school bus drivers have. Those don't break. You can lose your doors if just a fuse goes bad. The electronic doors can go out for multiple reasons. I usually spend around 10k for a e450 2004-2006 with 100k on it. So I really don't think that an outdated Krystal interior is worth $15k extra.

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    Family outings can be SOOOOO much fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by lake_carl View Post
    the 7.3 is a great medium duty engine, we have on is our tool truck, with just under 350K, has had some of what I consider normal maintenance issues and a tranny, this truck wieghs tpically 11K pounds and we often tow 10K with it,
    I also have a e350 bus with same engine 123K on it it is a 25' originally a 25 person shuttle, now set up for 14 runs great, many big cost differences with the bigger bus, and not as easy in to drive in tight areas
    I have to disagree with this when you are comparing a medium duty bus built on the International 3800 chassis. Most of the drivetrain parts are the same cost, if not less, when compared to an e450. The engine is the 7.3, transmission is a AT545 (rebuilds are cheap an readily available) , rear axle is a Dana 60 which is a very common part again.

    Not to mention working on the bus is a lot easier because it does not have the tight confines underhood that a E350/450 bus has.
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    Electrical doors are not bad, circuit box is about $150.00 and motor about $100.00

    The krystal air door, sometimes can open for no reason and on a limo bus it is a bi**h to get to the motor. Then there is a reset button in the control panel to reset the door.

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    It's not the cost of fixing them, it's the inconvenience of them breaking in the middle of a run. If they break to where they won't close you can't transport passengers, it's too big of a safety hazard.

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    New to this business. We bought a fairly late model E350 13 pass shuttle bus. We're installing a wet bar, and the electronics for the sound & TV. We plan to do trips to MLB, NFL, casinos, concerts, proms, dances, and etc on a booked basis. There is only one other "bus" in our area (3 states) Several questions: We were planning to record a safety DVR on the do's and don'ts while on the bus and play it on departure. Any suggestions. Second we have contacted the casino's and some have agreed to provide some comps for our guests. Any marketing suggestions.

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    We are interested in getting a 28 party passenger bus. It seems the most we will use it for Saturdays and try for weddings for Fridays and Sundays. Does any one have any other things during the week that they use this on.

    If you have shuttle buses do they go out more often then the party bus?

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    Party buses only go out on Saturdays and one other day in a week.
    But they bring back enough $$$ that i don;t mind it sitting the rest of the week.

    My shuttle buses are typically booked about 4 days a week on weekdays mostly for corporate work.

    But every market is different.

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    We have two larger mini busses. One a Ford F450 with 24 passengers, forward facing seats. Our second, a DT 3200 International Limo Bus is DOT rated at 26 passengers. With heavier loads the Limo Bus (Diesel Engine) has the power to move up hills without blinking an eye. Our Limo Bus is restricted to 20 adults, 22 prom kids, and 26 family members with children for something like a Disney on Ice.

    Our International has been flawless in it operation. It did have a rough idle for the first 10,00 miles, and then it just ran smooth from that point. We were standing next to the vehicle and we thought it shut off. If you are looking for a larger size vehicle, (20+) I would recommend a diesel engine. We are averaging great mileage on the limo bus, almost 9.5 miles per gallon. We also have the Plexiglas covers for the TV’s.

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    Having a bus to accommodate all sized groups helps out a lot for us!

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