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    Default Look for your material

    I know several of you on here already know and use copyscape.com to look for sites that have ripped off your wording.

    Some may also know to watch reports for their sites to find sites that directly call images from your site to display on their (they may not be copying it, but they are stealing the bandwidth you may be paying for)

    But, many people when they take your images just save it off on their servers, so it is harder to find unless you come across it. Google makes it easier to try to find these, in a way. Go to their image search ( http://images.google.com/ ) and either drag/drop image from another tab, upload your image, or paste URL. See http://www.google.com/insidesearch/searchbyimage.html for how to use it. I haven't gotten the drag and drop method to work in IE, but does in Firefox (and if you are designing your website, you should have more than just IE to check your site with anyhow)

    For those who really care to protect their site, this can be a nice tool for searching for your limo images!

    -Greg

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    The other easy method to do this is tinyeye.com
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    Had to google it to find the correct URL (http://www.tineye.com/) but looks good too, playing with it now. Thanks.

    -Greg

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    What does it matter if there is no recourse?
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    "there is no recourse" and "we don't want to spend the time and money to use enforce or legal rights" are two different things. Run into company and their hosting company that don't want to respect it, yes, can get expensive.

    If it is your own image/copy that you legally have the copyright to, start by sending a polite certified letter to the site owner stating your claim to ownership (including things like when you created it or at least first published it, not sure, try looking up old copies of your site on www.archive.org wacky wayback machine) and let them know they have till a specific date (give reasonable time for letter to arrive, them to read it, and get in touch with their person maintaining the site) to remove the content from their site. Also the same day you send it, get a copy of their site with the content that is yours.

    If you get no response, or they tell you to go do something impolite, next step is find who is hosting the site ( try http://whois.domaintools.com/sitedomain.com and then go to the Server Stats tab, usually the hosting company is listed at the end of the entry for "IP Location") Look up their information, and send a DCMA Takedown Notice to the host. Most of them (in the US), take this serious, as they don't want to deal with the legal issues of someone going full legal on it. Again, assert your claim to content ownership, list when you published it, when you first noticed their client was using it, when you contacted them (mention you sent it certified), when you gave them to remove it, and the response you got. Again, send it certified.

    The hosting company has not been notified that they are allowing copyright infringement. Any hosting company (in US) that is legally doing things is pretty much forced to act, either by taking it down, or requesting their client provide counter argument to your claim.

    Beyond that, then you have to decide is it worth your time and money to go further.

    In the United States, copyright is implied for the originator when the content is first publicly published/available. This is why it is good when you do major changes to your site, keep track of it. The more you can provide the better chance that a simple request will get it taken care of.

    One thing to note, especially with a new company/website, especially a DIY website, the person who used it may not have any clue what they are doing is wrong. (getting even worse with the digital internet age, and especially with things like google image search, were people go grab stuff every day to use). This is why I recommend that the initial letter to the site owner try to be nice, you may be making them away for the first time they should not have used it. Come off pissed off in your letter, and a lot of people will say "screw you" and ignore it. (and there are those who will do that no matter how you word it)

    Outside the US, well there is still copyright laws, and the above steps still don't hurt to try. Cost you a little time, a cost of one or two certified letters.

    -Greg

    PS: Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and the above is my personal suggestions. You should contact a lawyer to verify the rights and option you have available..... (sorry, it is a sue happy world, and this site gets a bunch of traffic and indexed)
    Last edited by Greg K; September 7th, 2011 at 12:05 AM. Reason: CMA... Adding disclaimer

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    Comparison of the two, Google images vs TinEye

    Tested the towncar image at the top of this page (used it, as the their name was on the front license plate, as best I could tell)
    http://www.daytonalimos.com/towncar.htm

    TinEye.com came back with 4 results, one of which was the original site.

    Giving that image to Google Image search, at the top it says it found 167 results. I stopped checking after the 3rd page of results which by then found the image on 15 Limo websites (other than the original one), and most of them, went right ahead and left the "Daytona Limo" on the front license plate. Some blacked it out, one in Canada replaced it with their plate.

    Daytona Limo should have licensed out that and made money from it ;-)

    -Greg

    PS. I should also note that one or two of those sites may be part of Daytona's company, one had the same number, and another is also in Florida so may farm out to them so they list it, but there were still several more pages of results found.
    Last edited by Greg K; September 10th, 2011 at 03:07 AM.

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