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    Default J. Scott's SEO Problem

    This post is actually a response to a deleted thread.

    As explained in the deleted thread, J. Scott hired an SEO consultant who triggered a Google penalty and caused his website to drop in the SERPS.

    Jared -

    I'm not an SEO specialist, but I have some knowledge in the subject. You have some small problems and one large problem causing the penalty.

    Small Stuff

    Keyword Stuffing - This site looks SEOed out! You have keywords everywhere. The homepage keywords should be "Nashville Limo" and "Nashville Limousine" only. If you want to target other keywords, make separate pages for them. Create readable META descriptions, and Titles and Footers without a thousand keywords stuffed into them. To view the META code, select "view source" in your web browser.

    Duplicate Content - Your webserver is displaying two versions of your website - "www.nashvillelimo.net" and "nashvillelimo.net." This isn't a huge problem, but it does dilute page rank. To correct the issue, log onto your webserver and alter the .htaccess file to read www.nashvillelimo.net only.

    The other problem with duplicate content is the Wordpress Blog you mentioned. Blogs are great for SEO, but completely worthless when you simply copy syndicated content from other parts of the web. This is another duplicate content issue.

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    Bad Inbound Links - You have approximately 1500 inbound links flowing into your site. To view these links, go to Yahoo Site Explorer. Most of these are fine, but a few are from very bad neighborhoods.

    Link Acquisition Speed - How fast did you get the 1500 inbound links? Natural linking is fine, but if you acquired all of them over the last few months, this could be problem. To figure out a natural linking profile, google "nashville limo" and research your competitors inbound links. Nothing is inherently wrong with acquiring links quickly, but if you do it with static and sparse content, this will effect your rankings.

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    Reciprocal Links Page - THIS IS WHAT CAUSED YOUR PENALTY. It's one thing to have a few reciprocal links, it's another to have a page requesting links. Creating a page this overt is a clear violation of the Google Webmaster Guidelines. Asking for reciprocal links might have been cool in 2003, but today it's considered a linking scheme. You might have had this page on the site before you hired the consultant, but once the rapid link building began, Google took a closer look.

    How To Fix This

    To fix the site and overcome the penalty, I would:

    1. Build out 40+ pages of original content with a sensible keyword saturation. It's important to make your site look credible. If you don't want to do this, hire a writer. If you outsource the job, you can get it done for as little as $2 a page.

    2. Contact the sites with the bad inbound links and ask them to remove your link.

    3. Fix the htaccess file.

    4. Nuke the Reciprocal links page.

    5. File a reinclusion request through Google's Webmaster Tools. As part of the request, explain your issues with the SEO consultant, and the remedies taken to resolve the problems. You should provide complete documentation with your request. If Google accepts your case, they will do a human review of the site and manually put you back into the SERPS.

    Being penalized by Google is obviously bad for business, but the problem isn't insurmountable. Nobody but Google truly understands the inner-workings of their algorithm, but strong content, natural links, and good branding will always help a site.

    Good Luck

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    excellent advice, i would do exactly what he suggested. i would also fix your site so its optimized for 1024x768 resolution. right now you have a horizontal scroll which makes browsing very hard.

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    Fine work, David!

    I understanding that duplicate content by way of blogs is Google's next big thing. As you say, no one but Google really knows... they change the answers before the questions get asked.

    Anyway, I agree with Brandon... excellent advice!
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    David,

    Fine work my friend, I truly appreciate your response and your time!

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    pretty good advice. Why was the thread deleted?
    I offer Search engine optimization for Limo Companies. Our main limo website has had over 9.6 million hits. Some of my clients: www.FirstClassLimos.net Rome Tours Tours in Rome Limo Service Philadelphia www.PartyBusToledo.com

    Call us at 1-888-51-LIMOS (54667) For referral work in Cleveland Ohio, Columbus, Toledo, & Pittsburgh PA and all cities in between - over 15,000+ customers and counting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Class Limos View Post
    pretty good advice. Why was the thread deleted?


    Astonish SEO signed up for the forum, hijacked threads to smear me...

    he got fired cause he lied about what he could do....

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    a good way to check your site for duplicate content is to search for a few different sentences in quotes from each paragraph. i do this to make sure when i hire a writer they are actually doing their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave M View Post
    Duplicate Content - Your webserver is displaying two versions of your website - "www.nashvillelimo.net" and "nashvillelimo.net." This isn't a huge problem, but it does dilute page rank. To correct the issue, log onto your webserver and alter the .htaccess file to read www.nashvillelimo.net only.
    Dave,

    Thank you for the inside look! I have learned a lot already (got rid of our "links" page instantly!). Just curious, as I use Yahoo!'s Sitebuilder (WYSIWYG) I have no idea how to access the .htaccess file...but I was wondering, could it actually work in our favor not to get rid of the version that does not have the "www." in case someone does not type it? I understand your point, but just wondering the alternative.
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    Default Duplicate Content

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedar Mill Limousine View Post
    Dave,

    Thank you for the inside look! I have learned a lot already (got rid of our "links" page instantly!). Just curious, as I use Yahoo!'s Sitebuilder (WYSIWYG) I have no idea how to access the .htaccess file...but I was wondering, could it actually work in our favor not to get rid of the version that does not have the "www." in case someone does not type it? I understand your point, but just wondering the alternative.
    Thanks for the positive feedback guys, I appreciate it!

    Cedar-

    The .htaccess file is a configuration file that sits on your web server. This is definitely not something you would be able to access through Yahoo Site builder.

    It doesn't help to have duplicate content. With the htaccess file properly configured, the www version should simply redirect to the non-www version. To see an example, click http://www.allthingslimousine.com instead of http://allthingslimousine.com. Both end up at the same place.

    The problem with www vs non-www is that if people start linking to both, Google can't figure out which page is the "real" duplicate. Inevitably, the wrong page gets put into the supplemental index.

    The real problems with duplicate content arise when individuals copy external content. If Google has a version of the original page, it'll put the new page at the bottom of the SERPs.

    From looking at your website, I wouldn't worry about this issue, it looks like you're on the first page of Google for most of your keywords.

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    Thank you sir for the explanation.
    Rich Rottier
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    David,

    Very imprressive answer. I am currently trying to learn as much as I can about google stuff. You hit the nail on the head !!!!!! Nice job. ++++ rep.
    " Luck is when preparation & opportunity come together "

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    Yeah, definately +rep worthy. Good stuff.
    Tough times don't last. Tough people do.

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    Default Jared Scott Has No Idea What He Is Doing

    Jared Scott developed this site by himself.... We did not do seo on this site for him. He did all this keyword stuffing himself. Keyword stuffing is a horrible tactic, as well as having a links page.
    WE DID NOT DO ANY WORK ON THIS SITE AT ALL!
    One of the sites we worked on h(tt)p://www.murfreesboro-homes-tn.com has great rankings in Google, Yahoo and MSN, check it out search for "murfreesboro homes for sale" or Murfreesboro tn property" on either Google, Yahoo or MSN.
    Jared Scott is mad because he could not make his last payments with us and voided his contract. This caused us to stop work on his site, he is pissed off and is venting every where he can online.
    He failed payment, then did a charge back for $3300 on our company. We won this money back in a paypal dispute because Jared voided the contract. Jared is 100% responsible for 100% of Nashvillelimo.net and we do not appreciate him associating our company with a site that we did not even work on.

    Also Jared says we hijacked threads. Since when did posting a reply, become HIJACKING?
    Last edited by Astonish SEO; June 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 AM.

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    To simply solve the problem that Dave M is talking about you can login into your Google Webmaster control panel and tell Google which version you want to use WWW vs Non

    If anyone needs help with this please let us know, we are glad to help (for free).

    We obviously know what we are doing when it comes to seo, we have several #1 rankings on google including "Affordable SEO". We even have clients on page 1 for such terms like "online colleges" and "IT Support". Jared Scott needs to stop slandering our company for work on sites we never did.

    One major factor that Jareds leaves out about his limo site is that he just re-designed it. Prior to the redesign he had over 30 pages in the site. Now he only has about 3-5 pages (do the math). He also never had great rankings with the site so there was really nothing for him to have ruined
    Last edited by Astonish SEO; June 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 AM.

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    If you didn't do anything to Jared's site, why did you charge him $3300?

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