Limousine Associations

There is a Limousine Association, coming soon that will change the way associations are viewed. Belonging to this association will mean that you are a fully bonified operator with all of the required legal documents to operate in your state. A fully interactive website that will be full of resources and real benefits for you company. Networks and listings of worldwide Limousine companies and helpful information. You think that you are in? Not so fast, your money is only as good as your ethics here. This is truly a team player organization, if your company y fails to meet the standards, you will not be brushed aside, your company will be assisted in meeting the standards and growing. Think that you can just apply and put down whatever information you think we want to hear? Not so fast a representative wil be stopping by to examine your fleet and your companies ethics. If you would like more information please reply to editor email and you will recieve a response within 24hrs. Thank you and stay tuned!

A wonderful idea that many have offered before. I wish you luck in spearheading the operation -- the industry does indeed need it.

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Many have tried and NONE have succeeded in accomplishing this goal. Quite frankly, most of us in the industry look at this as just another entity trying to extort money for their organization. Not even the NLA has succeeded in accomplishing this goal and NLA is "our" organization, run by people in the business who operate the business. There are too many small to midsize cities who's clientele care about local roots and local service and could care less what some affiliation, association, organization or whatever you want to call it has to say. I wish anyone luck in a new business, as it the American way. However, if you want to get in the business, join NLA and improve what we already have started instead of trying reinvent the wheel. It's simply not needed!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Limo Scene:
Many have tried and NONE have succeeded in accomplishing this goal. Quite frankly, most of us in the industry look at this as just another entity trying to extort money for their organization. Not even the NLA has succeeded in accomplishing this goal and NLA is "our" organization, run by people in the business who operate the business. There are too many small to midsize cities who's clientele care about local roots and local service and could care less what some affiliation, association, organization or whatever you want to call it has to say. I wish anyone luck in a new business, as it the American way. However, if you want to get in the business, join NLA and improve what we already have started instead of trying reinvent the wheel. It's simply not needed!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://limos.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Am I out of the loop or have you forgotten that the NLA has done nothing for the industry, politically or in a business sense. I will never join the NLA, and I certainley discourage others from doing so. People tend to forget what they are fighting for and this is the case with the NLA, it went from member interest to self interest, typical political story wouldnt you say? Just the same you are not going to be buying a status go you will be buying services and being recognized for doing the right thing. A network of information on your local business associates, who you can trust and who needs help improving. In fact this is not a for profit agency, this an investment agency, we do the work that you dont have time to do. This means not only new legislation at at Federal level, but also at a state level where most of us are regulated and pay hefty fees to stay in business.

No, you are not out of the loop. Nor have I forgotten what the NLA was intended for or how dismally it failed to deliver politically or business wise. I have also not forgotten the Chauffeur Certification program that they attempted and failed at which would have been good for our industry. But honestly, I could market mine and wouldn't try to gouge people in the industry and make huge bucks off of them.

I am not an NLA member. There has been nothing to convince me they can add money to my bank account. That's what the bottom line of being in business is all about. I firmly believe if you handle your clients professionally from the time the phone rings until the time you drop them off and give them WAY MORE than they expected, you will add money to your bank account again and again without any association dues etc. If I need advice, I call Tom Mazza or Sara at LCT.
They are available by phone for a quick question FREE.

Now, let's get to the meat of your thoughts. I don't need to "buy services and be recognized for doing the right thing." I run circles around my competitors by having policies that benefit both the client and the company in equal balance.

Merely being considered as one of the top five operators at LCT's show in Vegas assured me, I am one of the best in the business (pardon my arrogance for a minute I just happen to know we are very good at what we do and hear so all the time from our clients).

--"A network of information on your local business associates, who you can trust and who needs help improving."

If you don't already know this, you are not doing your homework. I know each and every one of them personally. I monitor them and I know they monitor me and wait for me to raise my prices. When I raise mine, they raise theirs. I NEVER worry when we raise prices that I will lose business as when you want to havee the best, you will pay for the best. Those are the clients I want. The tire kickers on a budget who are one time users are the people I want to go to my "competitors" who are more "affordable".

-- "In fact this is not a for profit agency, this an investment agency, we do the work that you dont have time to do".

An investment agency? What is the investment? Who get's to dividends of the investments? More importantly, who's getting paychecks and how much are they getting? When someone shows up to "evalulate" my company, who's paying that travel expense. ME! That's who. What exactly is it you propose to be doing that I don't have time for?

-- "This means not only new legislation at at Federal level, but also at a state level where most of us are regulated and pay hefty fees to stay in business."

I REALLY hope you are NOT seeking new legislation at ANY level. I am legislated to death already by federal, state, local, airports etc. I hope what you really meant was new lobbyists and protection of our industry as opposed to more legislation.

I would say that when you get your association going and have some nice marketing materials to promote the "benefits of membership", I will open mindedly look at it and see if just by chance it might benefit me.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Limo Scene:
No, you are not out of the loop. Nor have I forgotten what the NLA was intended for or how dismally it failed to deliver politically or business wise. I have also not forgotten the Chauffeur Certification program that they attempted and failed at which would have been good for our industry. But honestly, I could market mine and wouldn't try to gouge people in the industry and make huge bucks off of them.

I am not an NLA member. There has been nothing to convince me they can add money to my bank account. That's what the bottom line of being in business is all about. I firmly believe if you handle your clients professionally from the time the phone rings until the time you drop them off and give them WAY MORE than they expected, you will add money to your bank account again and again without any association dues etc. If I need advice, I call Tom Mazza or Sara at LCT.
They are available by phone for a quick question FREE.

Now, let's get to the meat of your thoughts. I don't need to "buy services and be recognized for doing the right thing." I run circles around my competitors by having policies that benefit both the client and the company in equal balance.

Merely being considered as one of the top five operators at LCT's show in Vegas assured me, I am one of the best in the business (pardon my arrogance for a minute I just happen to know we are very good at what we do and hear so all the time from our clients).

--"A network of information on your local business associates, who you can trust and who needs help improving."

If you don't already know this, you are not doing your homework. I know each and every one of them personally. I monitor them and I know they monitor me and wait for me to raise my prices. When I raise mine, they raise theirs. I NEVER worry when we raise prices that I will lose business as when you want to havee the best, you will pay for the best. Those are the clients I want. The tire kickers on a budget who are one time users are the people I want to go to my "competitors" who are more "affordable".

-- "In fact this is not a for profit agency, this an investment agency, we do the work that you dont have time to do".

An investment agency? What is the investment? Who get's to dividends of the investments? More importantly, who's getting paychecks and how much are they getting? When someone shows up to "evalulate" my company, who's paying that travel expense. ME! That's who. What exactly is it you propose to be doing that I don't have time for?

-- "This means not only new legislation at at Federal level, but also at a state level where most of us are regulated and pay hefty fees to stay in business."

I REALLY hope you are NOT seeking new legislation at ANY level. I am legislated to death already by federal, state, local, airports etc. I hope what you really meant was new lobbyists and protection of our industry as opposed to more legislation.

I would say that when you get your association going and have some nice marketing materials to promote the "benefits of membership", I will open mindedly look at it and see if just by chance it might benefit me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://limos.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I'll take you up on that! That was the most positive thing you've said. P.S. everybody thinks they are the best!

Not everyone thinks they are the best. Some of us know it beyond a shadow of a doubt. But in either case, what exactly is wrong with that?

Karl Jones

Someone recently commented ANONYMOUSLY a post about someone's ethics stating "he has none" - "watch out for this guy" -- such comments are not valid if you are anonymous. Post your profile as PremierKC has done and then you can voice your opinion without being deleted.

Written attacks by anonymous people will be deleted.

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Michael - I just want to say that I saw the post before you had a chance to delete it. By my previous posts regarding this subject, you know I was skeptical to begin with. After reading that post, I am holding a fifty foot pole between us before I get involved with a "new association". I think it was a relevant piece of information. However, I understand your reason for deleting an anonymous attack on someone without details of why we should "stay away from this guy". Do you have anyway of knowing who the post came from? May I take this opportunity to say - who ever you are that made the post, put your name on it, give us some details on your reason for making such a statement. It could be relevant to protecting a nation of operators and why would you not want people to know you were the one who protected them. If it is personal issue between you and the other person, he probably already knows it was you that wrote it. I urge you to re-post it with your name and specfics.

Anyone knows that I don't really care if someone wants to object to someone's ideas or opinions, however, doing it without taking accountability for the opinion and being open to debate will not happen here. If the person identified himself, the post would have stayed.

As you know, we've had problems with these types of "anonymous" attacks before. The attack is not the problem; it's the carrier. . . aiken to finding an envelope under your door with no return address and written in newspaper cut-out clippings.

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And yes, please feel free to tell us why we should "Watch out" -- the comments are welcome if you own-up to them. And of course, please keep it factual.

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Well, true to the industry, I have turned my back for a moment and although I did not see the posting I get the idea that someone has attempted to drive a dagger into my back, but, never the less, as someone qouted, I do have a strong suspicion of who it was, probably the same guy that sent a letter to the city of Kansas City, Missouri addressed as "anonymous". "I did not know that the word "anonymous" and coward where one in the same". Fist of all I would like to thank Limos.com, they have been worth every dollar invested, yes it is an investment. Do not let propaganda run this site, this is not a battleground, it is a friendly informational forum, I appreciate the fact that I can come here and turn to people in the industry for feedback and direction, this should be a priviledge, do not be afraid to remove a member who turns this into a mud fighting contest! I have also suggested to Limos.com that a live chat area be developed, this is something that I am also currently working on and will release the address in the near future.

Keep your enemies close and your friends even closer!!