Say Goodbye Vermont...

[Michael-Admin]

Thought this was amusing...Wade will like this.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2005/...vermonters_want_out/ (http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2005/10/28/blue_state_blue_about_path_of_usa_some_vermonters_ want_out/)

[BirmLimo - Michael Birmingham]

BYE BYE. I would help build the wall around them to keep them out of the US. Maybe we can send all of the self important , " I'm better than you" lib's there. The Baldwins can be the Trustees , Al Gore could be the town crier , ted kennedy would be the town drunk , and Bon Jovi can write the state song.

[gunny]

Then NUKE the place!

[JHJ]

Originally posted by gunny:
Then NUKE the place!
This is a strange response to an article about one of the few states that has so little business regulation that one wonders if there is a government at all. Gunny, Vermont is what you would die for in Florida.
On a more serious note, Americans certainly do lack perspective. This novel experiment called America is barely 215 years old - a mere blink of an eye in Europe and certainly the Far East where dynasties have lasted ten times as long. No other country has survived attempts to create or tolerate a pluralistic society (Iraq isn't doing very well at it either), and I have long said that this country won't either. Our prosperity and power has covered over and patched up regional and demographic cleavages and we exist by sheer momentum. We will not always have such power nor propsperity, and when we go in the dumper with a poorly educated work force competing among itself for less jobs and prosperity, and a bloated Federal government, there will be a lot of other places in the USA that will be looking at how to go it alone. I predict a fracture of this country along regional lines, rather than state by state. Remember a place called the Roman Empire? Or the Mongol Empire? Or the Ottoman Empire? Or even the British Empire? These creations look myopically stable from inside, but, in fact, they all collapsed of their own weight after existing far longer than this crazy country. Remember - you read it here first.
I find Gunny and BirmLimo's responses amusing coming from a state where they can't count votes and a state that gave us Jim Trafficante, Dennis the Menace Kucinich and the biggest power failure in American history. I can think of some other states to build walls around and then nuke, thank you.

[gunny]

J, the goofing was on taking all the libs to Vt & then nuking the place. Of course would of been more serious if it was politicians & lawyers. Right on with the State I currently reside in as I feel enema is the word.

I feel Yuma calling.

This new Roman Empire will go the way of the old.

[Dave Burden]

If this plan doesn't work, at least one town is trying to join NH. Killington, VT, a ski resort town, has talked about becoming part of NH, although they are surrounded by quite a bit of Vermont at this time.

Dave (in NH, but real close to VT)

ps - did you realize that NH owns 90% of the CT river between NH and VT? The border does not run down the center like most waterway borders.

[JHJ]

Originally posted by Dave Burden:
If this plan doesn't work, at least one town is trying to join NH. Killington, VT, a ski resort town, has talked about becoming part of NH, although they are surrounded by quite a bit of Vermont at this time.

Dave (in NH, but real close to VT)

ps - did you realize that NH owns 90% of the CT river between NH and VT? The border does not run down the center like most waterway borders.
I saw the news article about Killington and wondered how it could become part of NH when it is not adjacent or very near the border.
The location of the border between NH and Vermont in the Connecticut River doesn't mean anything so far up the river as it is navigable inasmuch as the Federal government claims all rights in navigable waterways, and that term is defined pretty broadly.
Here's a bit of ancient trivia - what do you call the centerline of a river? The "thalwig."

[Dave Burden]

I think the NH senate voted to welcome Killington to NH, but obviously Vermont will not allow it to happen. I also think the US Senate or someone on the Fed level has to okay it as well.

Actually Vermont makes out on the river deal. Since we (NH) own the river, NH has to pay to repair all the bridges. Normally states would split the cost.

Dave