The NLA's 5 year strategic plan.

Dear friends.

I want to inform you of a meeting that took place in July of 1999 in San Francisco. The board of the NLA invited many of its retired directors to participate in a strategic planning session and a vision statement for the NLA and the industry for the next five years.

I attended as well as other well meaning people who were involved in the prior session that took place in 1995 and that was almost prophetic in its views and predictions.

The meeting was lively, a lot of brain thrust was delivered by the invitees. At one point the current president of the NLA. Mr Daryl Norman asked me run again for the board as he was fixing to be president and had no one to counsel him on the issues.

I found the board at said meeting to be week, unfocused and somewhat naive. I declined Mr Norman's invite and went on with my life for another year.

I was informed that all the results of that THINK TANK would be compiled into a report by the consulting firm that moderated the forum, and all attendees will recieve a copy within 90 days.

Several month went by. I called Bob Scott, and asked him for my copy. He sort Blew me off. Again in August @ the NELA annual trade show and seminar in Boxboro, Ma. I asked attending board members from the NLA for a copy. Michelle Rossi promised to mail me a copy which as of today, I have bo recieved.

Is it fair that the board of the NLA have advance information that will assist them to properly plan the course of their companies while the rest of us have to rely on less information to run our businesses. Deny the very people who genrated those ideas access to it. Not inform the membership of highly valuable information, and withold access to it.

Please join me in asking the NLA to immediatly and without hesitation publish and make available to all of its members this strategic 5 year plan for the association as well as the industry.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NELA FOUNDER:
Dear friends.

I want to inform you of a meeting that took place in July of 1999 in San Francisco. The board of the NLA invited many of its retired directors to participate in a strategic planning session and a vision statement for the NLA and the industry for the next five years.

I attended as well as other well meaning people who were involved in the prior session that took place in 1995 and that was almost prophetic in its views and predictions.

The meeting was lively, a lot of brain thrust was delivered by the invitees. At one point the current president of the NLA. Mr Daryl Norman asked me run again for the board as he was fixing to be president and had no one to counsel him on the issues.

I found the board at said meeting to be week, unfocused and somewhat naive. I declined Mr Norman's invite and went on with my life for another year.

I was informed that all the results of that THINK TANK would be compiled into a report by the consulting firm that moderated the forum, and all attendees will recieve a copy within 90 days.

Several month went by. I called Bob Scott, and asked him for my copy. He sort Blew me off. Again in August @ the NELA annual trade show and seminar in Boxboro, Ma. I asked attending board members from the NLA for a copy. Michelle Rossi promised to mail me a copy which as of today, I have bo recieved.

Is it fair that the board of the NLA have advance information that will assist them to properly plan the course of their companies while the rest of us have to rely on less information to run our businesses. Deny the very people who genrated those ideas access to it. Not inform the membership of highly valuable information, and withold access to it.

Please join me in asking the NLA to immediatly and without hesitation publish and make available to all of its members this strategic 5 year plan for the association as well as the industry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sounds like something else to ask for that we'll never get. But hasn't it occurred to you that the use of the terms "NLA," "Strategic," and "Plan" in one phrase is oxyMORONish?

This is par for the course and it as been mentioned before in these forums, there is no follow through and true information on anything. This is also why many companies have joined the TLPA, as they get information out to its members quickly, good or bad news. The NLA had its members believing HR1689 was a done deal then you get news flashes from the TLPA that says something different. To our organization this shows a sign of weakness within the NLA board. Why was the resignation of Bob Bellagama being hushed up by the President, he has lost the confidence and trust of any member that cares what is happening. He stands up for nobody or any subject of contoversy. Typical Typical thats why most of this board needs to go.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jhj:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NELA FOUNDER:
Dear friends.

I want to inform you of a meeting that took place in July of 1999 in San Francisco. The board of the NLA invited many of its retired directors to participate in a strategic planning session and a vision statement for the NLA and the industry for the next five years.

I attended as well as other well meaning people who were involved in the prior session that took place in 1995 and that was almost prophetic in its views and predictions.

The meeting was lively, a lot of brain thrust was delivered by the invitees. At one point the current president of the NLA. Mr Daryl Norman asked me run again for the board as he was fixing to be president and had no one to counsel him on the issues.

I found the board at said meeting to be week, unfocused and somewhat naive. I declined Mr Norman's invite and went on with my life for another year.

I was informed that all the results of that THINK TANK would be compiled into a report by the consulting firm that moderated the forum, and all attendees will recieve a copy within 90 days.

Several month went by. I called Bob Scott, and asked him for my copy. He sort Blew me off. Again in August @ the NELA annual trade show and seminar in Boxboro, Ma. I asked attending board members from the NLA for a copy. Michelle Rossi promised to mail me a copy which as of today, I have bo recieved.

Is it fair that the board of the NLA have advance information that will assist them to properly plan the course of their companies while the rest of us have to rely on less information to run our businesses. Deny the very people who genrated those ideas access to it. Not inform the membership of highly valuable information, and withold access to it.

Please join me in asking the NLA to immediatly and without hesitation publish and make available to all of its members this strategic 5 year plan for the association as well as the industry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sounds like something else to ask for that we'll never get. But hasn't it occurred to you that the use of the terms "NLA," "Strategic," and "Plan" in one phrase is oxyMORONish?

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No, it is not oxymoronic. The input that help develop this plan came from some the best business minds.

The real morons were the board. They had no clue how outwitted they were when they invited these proven seasoned veterans to educate them.

Now, they know more then they should, and they wont share it with anyone.

They think they are a smart bunch. I only greive that many intellectually superior minds were robbed without even a thank you or an aknowldgment.

Jim, arnt' you the least bit curious what was predicted for the industry for the next 5 years. Since, the session held in 95 was right on the money.

Join me in bringing this to all. We need not keep this peice of intelligence a property of the hallowed few.

[This message has been edited by NELA FOUNDER (edited 12-17-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NELA FOUNDER:
No, it is not oxymoronic. The input that help develop this plan came from some the best business minds.

The real morons were the board. They had no clue how outwitted they were when they invited these proven seasoned veterans to educate them.

Now, they know more then they should, and they wont share it with anyone.

They think they are a smart bunch. I only greive that many intellectually superior minds were robbed without even a thank you or an aknowldgment.

Jim, arnt' you the least bit curious what was predicted for the industry for the next 5 years. Since, the session held in 95 was right on the money.

Join me in bringing this to all. We need not keep this peice of intelligence a property of the hallowed few. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure, I'm curious - but, frankly, it would be easier to invite those who were there (other than the morons of course) to appear here and tell us what their thoughts were. I'm sure the transcription that was promised would only be corrupted by the transcribers who wouldn't be able to understand what was being said in the first instance. But, then agaion, if NLA paid a consulting firm to arrange and attend this session, why isn't it being made available to anyone who asks. Maybe it's lying right beneath the financial statements in a drawer - or maybe in a lockbox, to coin a phrase.

I really enjoy reading what people think about this and other issues posted in these forums, but I have to ask this question.

Is it really neccessary to copy and "Quote" every word the person right above you wrote before posting your reply? I do hate having to scroll past the same 5 paragraphs over and over just to find out what the next person has to say. I think it is simple enough to say "in reference to "So and So's statement" or something to that effect don't you?

If you want to reply to a specific sentence or paragraph then by all means quote it, but if you are replying to the whole statement, please save space and just reply. I don't think any of us have that short of a memory.

Thank you and please don't anyone take this personally.

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Brandy Fuller
Owner S.L.S.

ha ha ha I was thinking the same thing just now. Great post by the way to whoever started it. I'm very curious as well to find out what is in that report!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Starlitelimo:
I really enjoy reading what people think about this and other issues posted in these forums, but I have to ask this question.

Is it really neccessary to copy and "Quote" every word the person right above you wrote before posting your reply? I do hate having to scroll past the same 5 paragraphs over and over just to find out what the next person has to say. I think it is simple enough to say "in reference to "So and So's statement" or something to that effect don't you?

If you want to reply to a specific sentence or paragraph then by all means quote it, but if you are replying to the whole statement, please save space and just reply. I don't think any of us have that short of a memory.

Thank you and please don't anyone take this personally.
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The premise upon which your question is based is faulty. Most replies do not occur so soon that they are "right above you." There is almost always a break between the message and the reply, and since there are multiple threads it would be very difficult to keep track of each thread. In many case, speaking for myself, I try to clip the part of the message I am replying to, but the software used on this forum does not make clipping very easy, and, from what I have seen, most of the participants don't know how the bracketing "quote" and "b" work, so clips are pretty awful. It also takes somewhat longer to partially clip a post when replying. If nothing is quoted and only a reference is made to the original post, it is almost impossible to go back and find that post - try it sometime. The end result is that the quick and dirty way to reply and move on is to quote the whole message, and it does provide a convenience. Scrolling down through quoted text is a lot easier than scrolling up to find a post to which a message replies. Besides, we have some NLA directors on here, and scrolling either way can be a problem for them - clipping is out of the question.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NELA FOUNDER:
Dear friends.

I want to inform you of a meeting that took place in July of 1999 in San Francisco. The board of the NLA invited many of its retired directors to participate in a strategic planning session and a vision statement for the NLA and the industry for the next five years.

I attended as well as other well meaning people who were involved in the prior session that took place in 1995 and that was almost prophetic in its views and predictions.

The meeting was lively, a lot of brain thrust was delivered by the invitees. At one point the current president of the NLA. Mr Daryl Norman asked me run again for the board as he was fixing to be president and had no one to counsel him on the issues.

I found the board at said meeting to be week, unfocused and somewhat naive. I declined Mr Norman's invite and went on with my life for another year.

I was informed that all the results of that THINK TANK would be compiled into a report by the consulting firm that moderated the forum, and all attendees will recieve a copy within 90 days.

Several month went by. I called Bob Scott, and asked him for my copy. He sort Blew me off. Again in August @ the NELA annual trade show and seminar in Boxboro, Ma. I asked attending board members from the NLA for a copy. Michelle Rossi promised to mail me a copy which as of today, I have bo recieved.

Is it fair that the board of the NLA have advance information that will assist them to properly plan the course of their companies while the rest of us have to rely on less information to run our businesses. Deny the very people who genrated those ideas access to it. Not inform the membership of highly valuable information, and withold access to it.

Please join me in asking the NLA to immediatly and without hesitation publish and make available to all of its members this strategic 5 year plan for the association as well as the industry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NELA FOUNDER:
Dear friends.

I want to inform you of a meeting that took place in July of 1999 in San Francisco. The board of the NLA invited many of its retired directors to participate in a strategic planning session and a vision statement for the NLA and the industry for the next five years.

I attended as well as other well meaning people who were involved in the prior session that took place in 1995 and that was almost prophetic in its views and predictions.

The meeting was lively, a lot of brain thrust was delivered by the invitees. At one point the current president of the NLA. Mr Daryl Norman asked me run again for the board as he was fixing to be president and had no one to counsel him on the issues.

I found the board at said meeting to be week, unfocused and somewhat naive. I declined Mr Norman's invite and went on with my life for another year.

I was informed that all the results of that THINK TANK would be compiled into a report by the consulting firm that moderated the forum, and all attendees will recieve a copy within 90 days.

Several month went by. I called Bob Scott, and asked him for my copy. He sort Blew me off. Again in August @ the NELA annual trade show and seminar in Boxboro, Ma. I asked attending board members from the NLA for a copy. Michelle Rossi promised to mail me a copy which as of today, I have bo recieved.

Is it fair that the board of the NLA have advance information that will assist them to properly plan the course of their companies while the rest of us have to rely on less information to run our businesses. Deny the very people who genrated those ideas access to it. Not inform the membership of highly valuable information, and withold access to it.

Please join me in asking the NLA to immediatly and without hesitation publish and make available to all of its members this strategic 5 year plan for the association as well as the industry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

To the former NLA Board of Directors,
I have called Linda Bouland today and asked why you never received your stategic plan.
This is the answer as I know it:
The staff at the NLA office is totally changed since the original plan was done and the plan has been updated. If you want a copy, contact the NLA office 1-800-652-7007.
Let me know when you receive it.
Carolyn

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carolyn:
To the former NLA Board of Directors,
I have called Linda Bouland today and asked why you never received your stategic plan.
This is the answer as I know it:
The staff at the NLA office is totally changed since the original plan was done and the plan has been updated. If you want a copy, contact the NLA office 1-800-652-7007.
Let me know when you receive it.
Carolyn<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Carolyn,

How about you sending me copy of the plan.
Better still. Post it here online. Since the people in kentucky seem to be unable to do anything besides figuring out new ways to get their hands on our treasury.

Besides, I know the NLA's number by heart.
But thank you for posting it here for those who need it.
want to join me

[This message has been edited by NELA FOUNDER (edited 12-18-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carolyn:
To the former NLA Board of Directors,
I have called Linda Bouland today and asked why you never received your stategic plan.
This is the answer as I know it:
The staff at the NLA office is totally changed since the original plan was done and the plan has been updated. If you want a copy, contact the NLA office 1-800-652-7007.
Let me know when you receive it.
Carolyn<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nobody really believes Linda Bouland is going to send anybody anything. Let's remember that if you scroll back to Day One in late July what started the rebellion was the fact that she would not respond to any e-mail from me after weeks. Joe Cirrcuzzo calls her every morning to ask for a financial statement, and hasn't received one yet. I was in David Seelinger's office last week when he called her and asked her for a copy of the 1999 ballot and then had to have his Administrative Asistant call every 15 minutes before getting it hours later. This woman is worse than worthless and needs to go - the sooner the better. Host is not even smart enough to figure out that by making all these requests they're getting set up to terminate their contract, and for litigation against NLA. Linda is not even smart enough to figure out that when she's fired it will be for cause and she won't even get unemployment compensation - who'd want to hire her?
Go ahead, Carolyn - call every morning, you'll never see the report until we take the NLA fort and kick the bums out of the office.


[This message has been edited by jhj (edited 12-18-2000).]

ea <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jhj:
The premise upon which your question is based is faulty. Most replies do not occur so soon that they are "right above you." There is almost always a break between the message and the reply, and since there are multiple threads it would be very difficult to keep track of each thread. In many case, speaking for myself, I try to clip the part of the message I am replying to, but the software used on this forum does not make clipping very easy, and, from what I have seen, most of the participants don't know how the bracketing "quote" and "b" work, so clips are pretty awful. It also takes somewhat longer to partially clip a post when replying. If nothing is quoted and only a reference is made to the original post, it is almost impossible to go back and find that post - try it sometime. The end result is that the quick and dirty way to reply and move on is to quote the whole message, and it does provide a convenience. Scrolling down through quoted text is a lot easier than scrolling up to find a post to which a message replies. Besides, we have some NLA directors on here, and scrolling either way can be a problem for them - clipping is out of the question.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The N.L.A. is an artifact of the 1980's- the sooner it goes the better, in an Industry of 30,000 companies. You do not go to Dun & Bradsheet or InfoUSA, you do a census to count the number of operators in the industry-I have been doing this since 1985. Maury Sutton ( LCT Editor ) and I counted over 10,000 in 1989, obviously, there are more now. Sincerely, Dean Schuler, Limousine Industry Council

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dean Schuler:
ea <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jhj:
The premise upon which your question is based is faulty. Most replies do not occur so soon that they are "right above you." There is almost always a break between the message and the reply, and since there are multiple threads it would be very difficult to keep track of each thread. In many case, speaking for myself, I try to clip the part of the message I am replying to, but the software used on this forum does not make clipping very easy, and, from what I have seen, most of the participants don't know how the bracketing "quote" and "b" work, so clips are pretty awful. It also takes somewhat longer to partially clip a post when replying. If nothing is quoted and only a reference is made to the original post, it is almost impossible to go back and find that post - try it sometime. The end result is that the quick and dirty way to reply and move on is to quote the whole message, and it does provide a convenience. Scrolling down through quoted text is a lot easier than scrolling up to find a post to which a message replies. Besides, we have some NLA directors on here, and scrolling either way can be a problem for them - clipping is out of the question.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The N.L.A. is an artifact of the 1980's- the sooner it goes the better, in an Industry of 30,000 companies. You do not go to Dun & Bradsheet or InfoUSA, you do a census to count the number of operators in the industry-I have been doing this since 1985. Maury Sutton ( LCT Editor ) and I counted over 10,000 in 1989, obviously, there are more now. Sincerely, Dean Schuler, Limousine Industry Council
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I know it's the Holiday Season and I should be nice - but what the hell are you babbling about. It's obvious you must have consumed a good measure of Holiday Cheer. What you are responding to makes no sense. Also the year is 2000, soon to be 2001 - who cares what you did in 1980's.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hesch (from Florida):
I know it's the Holiday Season and I should be nice - but what the hell are you babbling about. It's obvious you must have consumed a good measure of Holiday Cheer. What you are responding to makes no sense. Also the year is 2000, soon to be 2001 - who cares what you did in 1980's. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Learning how to do research and think correctly is a gift. Wishing you well in the New Year, civilian. Dean